I join you today in calling for international nonviolent direct
action - both civil disobedience and cultural disobedience - to
psychiatric globalization, both locally and globally, in a way that
unites with all movements for justice and the environment. Gandhi
said it was important to try dialogue. It was then important to
purify ourselves, in our own way, and then to nonviolently resist
- to end cooperation. We have tried dialogue. It is time –
in our own ways – to prepare. And then it is time to go within
this system, and in creative nonviolent ways, shut it down.
Forty-one-years ago, in 1969, what many of us think of as the “mad”
or “psychiatric survivor” movement began. Thirty-four
years ago, in 1976, I began my work as a psychiatric survivor activist.
Twenty-eight years ago, more than half my life ago, in 1982, at
the age of 26, I was here in Toronto, helping with many others to
organize the 10th International Conference for Human Rights and
Against Psychiatric Oppression. Next year will be MindFreedom's
25th anniversary.
If some mad cell phone were available today that would allow me
to whisper lessons to myself here in Toronto, 28 years ago, what
would they be?:
Train! David, in your youth, you're skeptical of training, about
running nonprofit groups and social change. Demand that training.
It's your right!
Unite! Unity does not mean the purity of powerlessness. Connect
the gears of mutual support and activism. Seek nonviolent revolution,
not just reform. If madness exists, everyone is mad. What type of
madness is the question. The type of madness mistakenly called “normal”
is one of the most dangerous.
Remember the history of this movement, which was not, if anyone
is surprised, from government grants. The civil rights movement
talked about a “beloved community of all movements”.
Cherish that community around you.
Be kind. Rage is a little like Niagara Falls--powerful but overwhelming.
Charge admission, but do not jump in.
Independence does not mean isolation. Yes, build the independent
movement, that is, the wing without system funding. But also work
closely with good groups that are system funded. Don't denounce,
unless they really oppress. Firmly remind them that the independent
movement needs support.
Work "in a spirit of mutual cooperation." It's okay to
hold movement groups to the same standards to which we hold the
system. Verbal abuse and bullying are over the line. The line needs
to be smart, compassionate, flexible, forgiving... but it's okay
to have a line and say "no" to abuse within the movement.
THE MOVEMENT TURNS OUT TO BE RIGHT. The Movement – capital
T capital M - applies to all social and environmental movements,
not just the mad movement. What the movement is saying is right
about everything from the ecological disaster to the spread of psychiatric
drugs, which will be advertised on TV and given to one year olds.
Something called “the Internet” is coming. It's mainly
a valuable tool. Use it, but go beyond the screen. E-mail is not
a substitute for relationships and activism.
There ought to be a clear voice by survivors of abuse in the mental
health system. Never, ever, ever give up.
As I have done many times in recent years, I must ask you all,
"Do any of you believe you are normal?"
Do not panic! There is a rumor of an outbreak of normality among
attendees of this conference. I need to do a normality screening
with my rubber chicken. This is like airport security screening.
You are doing great.
This normality screening was devised by a clown troupe of my friend
Patch Adams, who is a clown and physician. We have had more than
1,000 normality screenings. My rubber nose is squeaking!
Please answer these screening questions, everyone, at the same
time: "Are you alive?"
"Why does broccoli play hockey on Saturn?"
"Can you make a loud animal noise?"
Please do so now. Really. Louder.
However you replied, even if you did not respond, you are officially
free of normality. Congratulations. All rumors of normality turn
out to be false.
I am free of normality too. Some of you have heard my story. In
brief, in the 1970s, I was a college student from a working class
family on the south side of Chicago. All of my grandparents were
immigrants from Lithuania. Both of my grandfathers were coal miners.
I attended Harvard on scholarships. I had severe mental and emotional
problems. I thought the CIA was making my teeth grow. I thought
the voice of God was on the radio. I thought technology, including
the TV, was a living force on Earth that talked to me. I saw a spaceship
hovering in my bedroom.
In college, I was locked up in psychiatric institutions five times.
Some psychiatrists labeled me “schizophrenic”. Others,
“manic depressive”, now known as “bipolar”.
In the psychiatric label bible -- the Diagnostic and Statistical
Manual -- these are types of psychosis.
I was locked up in Harvard's psychiatric institution, McLean, as
was our hero Don Weitz. Mental health workers would hold me down
on a bare mattress in an empty cell. They forcibly injected a powerful
psychiatric drug into my butt. I spent days alone in the cell, and
I remember pounding my fist at the impenetrable steel mesh on the
windows. I vowed, "When I get out of here I am going to help
change this mental health system." That cell turned into my
recruitment room for my career.
In my senior year at Harvard a volunteer agency referred me to
a grassroots group near campus. The group had sprung from the social
change turmoil of the early 1970s: Mental Patients Liberation Front.
I managed to graduate from Harvard in 1977, cum laude psychotic.
Since then I have had the privilege of working with thousands of
fascinating human beings all over the world who have been given
a psychiatric label or who are allies. I like to say I have had
a front seat watching the human spirit come back over and over again.
There's little agreement about the best language for us. “Psychiatric
survivors” for me means that we are individuals who experienced
human rights violations in the mental health system and lived to
tell about it. But I have a request. Do not call me mentally ill.
You can call yourself that, but calling me by that phrase lends
too much power to an already-powerful medical model.
Not all of us here have a "crazy label." Among us are
dissident mental health workers, curious researchers, courageous
advocates, compassionate family and concerned members of the general
public. All are welcome as leaders.
When we unite, I glimpse democracy shaping the mental health system.
It is time to hear about mental and emotional well being from the
perspective of those of us on the sharp end of the needle. We have
tips that could help save your mind, your life and even your planet.
Today a few experts might mistakenly call me normal. I have not
used the psychiatric system for more than thirty years. I'm married
to a wonderful, loving woman, Debra. We are homeowners with a nice
garden and a quirky cat Bongo. For these past 24 years, I've directed
a respected nonprofit human rights group in this field, MindFreedom
International, that unites 100 sponsor and affiliate groups.
I suspect, though, that many of my beliefs would still be labeled
by some psychiatrists as nuts.
• I believe tens of thousands of us so-called “mad
citizens” and allies are making history by transforming how
we as a society approach the whole subject of the mind.
• I believe the global psychiatric industry would like to
screen everyone for mental and emotional problems and place hundreds
of millions of new customers onto their powerful drugs.
Please understand that I am pro-choice about your personal health
care decisions. If you know the risks, if you have alternatives,
if you willingly choose prescribed pharmaceuticals, that is your
own private business and nobody else's. I know what it's like to
beg for a psychiatric drug. I also know what it's like to quit psychiatric
drugs, and care must be taken to do this well.
• I believe many of these psychiatric drugs can be addictive,
brain damaging and deadly, but much of this information is covered
up from patients and families.
• I believe the psychiatric industry is acting as a bully,
lying and choking out non-drug, humane options for mental health
care. I believe some need to be put in prison.
• I believe there is no scientific evidence for claims by
some in the psychiatric industry that a "chemical imbalance"
is the basis for mental disorders. I believe we are more complex
than that!
• I believe that much of the mental health industry is traumatizing,
damaging and even killing millions of mental health clients who
are, by some measures, among the most powerless in our society.
• I believe these human rights violations amount to a hurricane
of unscientific psychiatric labels... psychiatric drugging without
informed consent or non-drug options... torture in institutions
using restraints, aversive therapy, electroshock... isolation in
the community with segregation, impoverishment and discrimination...
a lack of good housing and decent jobs.
• I believe developing countries ought to be warned that
this psychiatric hurricane is invading their nations now and that
this globalization of corporate psychiatry's human rights violations
could impact hundreds of millions of people.
• I believe those of us who society perceives as having gone
over the edge of sanity and who have since returned have something
valuable to offer to citizens who are commonly considered normal.
• I believe our society is in extreme, global catastrophe
such as the climate crisis; yet humanity seems transfixed in a hypnotic
trance of passive conformity.
• I believe we so-called “mad” can help humanity
wake up from this so- called “normality” and reach some
of its highest goals of social and ecological justice.
• I believe this is Mad Pride!
For centuries there has been a war between those called “normal”
and those called “mad”. It is time to say to both, "Let's
talk." When people are unfairly divided by skin color, that
racism causes trauma. When people are unfairly treated because of
gender, that sexism causes suffering. But humans often define ourselves
as the thinking or rational animal. The minority of us perceived
as irrational is considered inferior in our most basic essence—our
chemistry, our genes. There is a name for this prejudice. I do not
hear this word much. Have you all heard it? It is sanism. Sanism
has a long history.
Psychiatric institutions have existed only for centuries. It is
revealing that it was mainly in the fairly recent 1800s that the
huge psychiatric institutions were first built. For better or worse,
the Western world was eager to urbanize, colonize, industrialize,
globalize. What to do about us eccentric citizens who do not fit
in the Great Globalization? Country folk who spout bizarre beliefs?
Joan of Arcs when they have no army?
Witches? Head injured? Fools? Developmentally disabled? Shamans?
In the 1800s we strange others on the margins were seen as impediments
in the great rationality.
The extreme of this oppressive approach can be seen in how those
of us given psychiatric labels were treated in Europe. In the 1930s,
Nazi Germany targeted children diagnosed with mental disabilities
as the very first group for mass murder. Psychiatrists helped develop
the theory, methods and even the paperwork used in Nazi genocide.
Never forget. Never again. Unjust deaths continue to this day.
A 2006 report by the USA National Association of State Mental Health
Program Directors shows that the life spans of those in the public
mental health system are more than 25 years shorter than average.
Researchers say psychiatric drugs play a major role in this catastrophe.
And hope? Let's look at a few slides. The ferment of the 1960s
civil rights, women's, anti-war movement and others encouraged citizen
activism. This churning made community organizing seem natural and
obvious. A spirit of liberation was expressed by Rev. Martin Luther
King, Jr. Many times, MLK sounded a theme that seemed to anticipate
our movement. He said, "psychologists today have a favorite
word and that word is 'maladjusted.' And I say I am proud to be
maladjusted. We ought to be maladjusted... Human salvation lies
in the hands of the creatively maladjusted." In a speech on
the First of September 1967, in front of the American Psychological
Association, MLK said, "Thus, it may well be that our world
is in dire need of a new organization, The International Association
for the Advancement of Creative Maladjustment." He asked for
this IAACM many times.
Only a few years after MLK's speech, the first psychiatric survivor
groups in this era emerged, such as We Shall Overcome in Oslo, Norway,
which I recently visited. And let's remember the tiny Insane Liberation
Front in Portland, Oregon and Project Release in NYC. Organizer
Howie the Harp composed a ballad for the new movement called “Crazy
and Proud”. I wrote for Madness Network News and Phoenix Rising.
We have new heroes, too. My friend Ray Sandford had more than 40
involuntary electroshocks against his will in Minnesota on an OUTPATIENT
basis. I'm proud to say MindFreedom and our movement leapt forward.
Shock survivor Linda Andre has written an excellent book blasting
electroshock. It is so great we protest electroshock this Sunday
on Mother's Day.
Among my new heroines is in Pune, India, my friend Bhargavi Davar.
Or my friend Dan Taylor, prevented from being at this conference
no doubt because of racism and sanism. One of the largest Mad Pride
events was by MindFreedom Ghana Africa. Mad Pride Ireland has had
more than one several-thousand person event. In the USA, Mad Pride
has won national publicity.
Several groups, including MindFreedom International, have attempted
dialogue with the World Psychiatric Association and the American
Psychiatric Association. We will not give up, but with only a few
exceptions, the door has largely been closed.
It is time to end cooperation. Peacefully, it is time to interrupt
the oppression, to nonviolently enter and speak out as never before,
using both civil disobedience and also cultural disobedience.
Allied mental health professionals play a role. It's one more reason
we should not demonize mental health professionals or use the word
"shrink." At about the time I was in a psychiatric cell,
psychiatrist Loren Mosher was head of the USA National Institute
of Mental Health's schizophrenia division. Loren created a model
known as “Soteria House” where people could find mental
and emotional support without the usual bullying and over-drugging
so many experienced in the mental health system. In 1998, Loren
famously resigned from the American Psychiatric Association, denouncing
it as the American Psychopharmaceutical Association.
In the 1980s, government and mental health system funding helped
start a few drop-in centers and other projects. Given how poor our
constituency is, funding from the system is necessary. It's our
tax dollars. But, on the other hand, this money has often co-opted
or "cooled out" the fire of activism and protest.
This is not a criticism of groups that accept funding from the
system. However, those groups that receive government and mental
health funds ought to pause and take care to acknowledge, appreciate
and nurture an independent mad movement. After all, what would the
environmental movement be if all of its activity were funded by
BP?
Today our movement encompasses thousands, including you, and hundreds
of diverse groups working for a voice for people in the mental health
system. There are nowhere near enough of us, but psychiatric survivors
and mental health consumers are running housing programs, peer support
groups and advocacy systems. There are non-drug alternative clinics,
networks of mental health professionals and authors criticizing
the psychiatric system. There are newsletters, conferences, web
sites and e-mail lists.
I am proud that next year, MindFreedom International celebrates
its 25th anniversary as a united independent coalition, openly working
for a nonviolent revolution in mental health. If I got a call now
on that mad cell phone from a few years into the future, here's
what I hope to hear:
Way to go connecting up with other movements – The Movement
– including and especially the environmental movement.
Fine work, implementing the UN Convention on disability and other
human rights treaties, and working with the cross-disability movement,
such as the US International Council on Disability.
Great global handbook for psychiatric survivors and mental health
consumers, in multiple languages, to support psychiatric survivors
in poor developing countries.
Wonderful directory on human alternatives in mental health, and
amazing that you actually held a global mental health boycott of
those who refused to agree.
Thank you for getting out thousands of stories by psychiatric survivors.
Superb collaboration with Icarus, Bazelon, MDRI, ICSPP, WNUSP,
CAPA, We The People and others.
Fantastic that Mad Pride events have broken out of the mad ghetto,
reaching millions of people.
And wonderful entering an era of nonviolent direct resistance.
Congratulations on protesting the DSM, psychiatry's label bible!
I loved the May 2012 united nonviolent civil disobedience of the
American Psychiatric Association Annual Meeting in Philadelphia
in 2012! Amazing that you peacefully shut down the APA conference
for a while!
In fact, great nonviolent civil disobedience and direct action
in general.
I'm asked what changes I've seen in 34 years of mad movement work.
There is some change for the better. When I meet with local mental
health officials in our small city of Eugene, Oregon, USA, or globally,
I witness some positive effects of our movement. We passed a City
Resolution for choice in mental health. I hear new words from mental
health leaders such as empowerment, peer support, advocacy, trauma,
alternatives, recovery and self-determination. Today, in a policy
meeting about us, it is not unusual to see us, such as an individual
with a psychiatric diagnosis, at the table.
We want more than buzz words, tokenism and a few model programs.
Mild reform is a trap. We want a nonviolent revolution. Just like
so many other social change movements, we must turn to activism
and protest, in our own mad ways! I enjoy hearing about some of
the creative protests and cultural events that educate the public
that are sprouting up all over the world. For the past decade a
Mad Pride movement has grown, similar to Gay Pride.
Mad Pride celebrates all of humanity's uniqueness and freedom with
events in about a dozen countries. For example, a Mad Pride Bed
Push won national publicity. In a Bed Push, activists dress as mental
patients in hospital gowns and push a hospital bed on wheels that
has a mannequin strapped in four-point restraints. The mad activists
push the bed through the streets to escape the psychiatric system,
educating thousands with humor.
What has changed during these decades? The warnings from our social
change movement have come true. When I started this work, the monster
of psychiatric oppression mainly terrorized the back wards of psychiatric
institutions. Now, as we warned, that monster has crawled over the
institutional walls, and is on your porch. Today it is found in
our communities, in our neighborhoods, our homes, our schools. Our
home ought to be our castle. But throughout the world, we find the
atrocity of thousands of citizens court ordered to take powerful
psychiatric drugs against their will while living in their own homes
out in the community.
The psychiatric system is increasingly prescribing psychiatric
drugs for children and marketing in our schools. There are mental
health screening programs in many schools. These programs march
thousands of young citizens to the front door of the mental health
system without advocacy, information or alternatives.
When I entered the mental health system in the 1970s as a teen,
I was almost broken by the experience. The forced drug injections
in solitary confinement wore me down. The most powerful blow, though,
was when a psychiatrist sat down with me, looked me in the eyes
and claimed that I had a chemical imbalance and that I must take
psychiatric drugs the rest of my life. That psychiatrist was wrong.
Thirty years ago, our movement mainly focused on the human rights
violations of force and fraud in the mental health system. What
has changed is that today the mental health system harms the human
rights of most citizens through a third "f," a special
brand of fear, a fear that there is no alternative to the conventional
mental health system.
Psychiatry has largely choked out choice in mental health. Families
with a member in crisis deserve more than just a bag of pill bottles
and a court order. There ought to be a full range of voluntary,
humane, safe options and alternatives offered to all who choose
to use them, including mutual support, jobs, housing, peer run programs,
nutrition, advocacy, quality counseling and other holistic approaches.
A range of choices to achieve mental wellbeing is not just a good
idea; it's a right. Why does a young person who has major mental
and emotional problems have to live in Finland to find alternatives?
The usual excuse is two words: "more money." But the
real answer is "less bullies." One choice is no choice!
The problem is deeper than "more money." Poor nations
have something to teach the richer nations. In two major studies,
World Health Organization researchers found that those in less developed
nations were far more likely to fully recover and reintegrate back
into society, than those in richer nations. In other words, nations
with less money, less psychiatrists and less psychiatric drugs appear
to have a far better chance. More money is not enough. Robert Whitaker
explained this in both Mad in America and now his new superb book
Anatomy of an Epidemic.
Decades ago, mad movement activists in richer nations predicted
that the labeling and overdrugging we saw in the back wards would
some day target the general public. Our prediction came true. We
have another prediction today. Please prevent this from coming true.
The crisis of globalization of psychiatric human rights violations
is increasing.
The developing world has been told they must be like the West.
They must be modern and scientific. In mental health that means
the medical model. Drugs are expensive. But electricity is everywhere.
So if a poor developing country wants to be like the richer nation,
that can mean more electroshock. That is what we are seeing. This
modern approach to mental health is not as much a medical model
as it is a domination model with a mantra of label, label, label,
drug, drug, drug, shock, shock, shock. This domination model is
globalizing rapidly. The World Bank and World Health Organization
and other large agencies are promoting multi-billion dollar campaigns
to bring western mental health to millions of citizens in poor developing
countries. This newest Western export is missing something. This
export package has labels, drugs and shock. But hardly ever does
the package include advocates, alternatives and activists that exist
in the West.
The globalization of psychiatry is a chemical crusade by pharmaceutical
fundamentalism: pharmentalism. The WHO estimates that 450 million
people in the world have a mental disability, and 400 million are
not in "treatment." So our global Mad Nation has a population
far larger than the U.S.A. Unchecked and unchallenged, world domination
by this corporate medical model could mean that over the next few
decades hundreds of millions of more people in our world -- so stressed
by war, economic imbalance and ecological crisis -- could be put
on psychiatric drugs or electroshocked without adequate advocacy,
information and alternatives. Congratulations to author Ethan Watters
for describing the globalization of corporate psychiatry through
diagnosis, in his new book "Crazy Like Us." I particularly
enjoyed his chapter on marketing depression in Japan.
Today, a child on Ritalin or Prozac is typically in the USA. The
number of USA children prescribed psychiatric drugs skyrocketed.
If the psychiatric drug industry has its way, the face of a child
on psychiatric drugs will increasingly be from Asia, from Africa
and from South America.
What has changed? When our movement began, we warned that psychiatric
drugs could cause brain damage. Science has proven us right with
the family of drugs that is typically given during forced psychiatric
procedures, the type given to me: neuroleptics, also known as antipsychotics.
They include dozens of drugs from Thorazine or Largactil, Haldol,
Mellaril and Navane -- all of which I was given -- to newer neuroleptics
such as Clozapine, Risperdal, Zyprexa, Seroquel and Abilify.
In the last few years, mainstream science has used modern research,
MRI scans, CT scans, animal studies and autopsies to link high-dose
long-term neuroleptics to structural brain change. Let me emphasize
one kind. Many studies indicate that long- term, high-dosage neuroleptics
can actually shrink the front of the brain -- our lobes linked to
higher level functions. The shrinkage is so great it is visible
in brain scans.
Just like with the climate crisis, some corporate defenders sow
doubt about this brain crisis. But studies cut through those smokescreens.
Some defenders say the shrinkage is from underlying "mental
illness." But many of these brain changes have also been produced
in non-human animal studies. Some defenders even wonder if brain
shrinkage may be good for us. But such changes are often linked
to worse mental and emotional problems and can make it difficult
to quit the neuroleptics. I read about neuroleptic brain changes
in the medical literature. But I do not hear about neuroleptic brain
damage in the media, mental health conferences, legislative assemblies
or courtrooms.
Damage to the higher-level brain system places neuroleptics in
the same ballpark as psychosurgery, as a lobotomy. Who will hear
our alert, that the mental health system is causing an epidemic
of chemical lobotomy to millions and is threatening to lobotomize
millions more in poor countries?
We can easily be pigeonholed as simply anti-drug. But we are not
in a civil war between choosing to take or not take a prescribed
drug. There are MindFreedom members who willingly take prescribed
psychiatric drugs. But we are united in overthrowing domination
by any one model in the mental health system. If you personally
believe spirituality helps your well being, I personally agree.
But if the government pushes one form of prayer as the only answer
for mental problems, if it suppressed non-prayer options, if it
claimed science had proven its prayer was the only true way to healing,
we would ask, "By what right? By what special evidence do you
justify the bullying by this one model?"
Asking these questions would not make us anti-spirituality. Asking
makes us pro-freedom. There ought to be an enormous united initiative
throughout the health, human rights and disability fields to provide
support and technical assistance so that the voices of psychiatric
survivors can be heard, especially in poor and developing countries.
One of the most rewarding connections for me is with the environmental
movement. Why? The jury is back. The numbers are crunched. The judgment
is made. What is mistakenly called “normality” is shredding
the very fabric of the whole planet's ecology. Before BP's oil leak
in the Gulf, they claimed there was no possibility of a catastrophe.
That is what is called "normal."
My friend Ken Kesey called the system, in his book One Flew Over
the Cuckoo's Nest, "The Combine." There has been an emergent
web of oppression. But there is an even bigger web emerging, encircling
it, the global mind. The race is on as never before. Win, or lose,
join in leading this global nonviolent battle.
Today there are revolutions throughout science. Complex emergence
displaces mechanistic reductionism. Quantum theory posits we cannot
absolutely "grip" reality. Physicists plumbing the depths
of subatomic particles say that what we are call "reality"
is weirder than they ever imagined. Mathematicians studying what
they call "string theory" hypothesize hidden dimensions.
What has been called “madness” is the core of the human
experience. If any one of us is mad, all of us are in the same mad
boat. We all need each other, every single one of us. Eliminating
the Amazon rainforest may destroy a rare plant that is tomorrow's
cancer cure. Eliminating all extreme mental states may destroy tomorrow's
prophet.
People cannot dominate complex systems. But one can have influence
in what is known as “the butterfly effect”. The late
scientist Edward Lorenz asked, "Does the flap of a butterfly's
wings in Brazil set off a tornado in Texas?" Simple small actions
have long-term unpredictable immense effects. We can teach citizens
about the power of mutual support in unmuting their mute button
and reviving morale. We can teach citizens that not all strange
thoughts are necessarily good, but all change for the good has begun
with one strange thought such as, "Let us outlaw slavery."
In his best seller Collapse: How Societies Choose to Fail or Succeed,
physician Jared Diamond finds that some cultures self-destruct,
while others learn to think well enough as a group to survive. When
I speak about the movement for nonviolent revolution, I am not speaking
only about mental health. I am speaking about a global nonviolent
revolution for social and ecological justice for all. Call me crazy,
but I believe that the Mad Movement plays a role in a great global
nonviolent revolution that must emerge. I conclude: What is your
creative maladjustment? What is your role as a leader in a great
global nonviolent revolution? Be truly mad enough to unite and lead
MLK's International Association for the Advancement of Creative
Maladjustment.
May I show you a bit of my madness? Join with me in calling –
from local to global – massive nonviolent direct action –
both civil disobedience and cultural disobedience – to directly
shut down psychiatric oppression, as never before.
Who are the mad? We are the mad. We ought to ask, what is a human
being?
Mad people experienced labels and drugs and restraints and shock
and never gave up.
Mad people experienced discrimination and homelessness and poverty
and never gave up.
Mad people took the worst hit the mental health system could give
and never gave up. Who is the mad movement? The mad movement is
composed of human beings for justice who cannot be stopped, who
will not be stopped, you!
One of our nonviolent weapons is the mind itself. Our peaceful
ammunition is inexhaustible: the human spirit.
As never before, we must join together with all the other movements
for social justice and the environment, to take our place in the
enormous changes that must take place. Thank you.